Thursday, November 13, 2008

This is a very sad thing, is this what we have to look forward to with our new president? We have now become the targets?

Anger over gay marriage vote directed at Mormons

Article Launched: 11/12/2008 04:31:39 PM MSTAnger over gay marriage vote directed at Mormons

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Supporters of gay marriage, frustrated over a ballot-box defeat in California, have channeled much of their anger toward the towering white spires of Mormon temples.
For months, the Mormon church sought to portray itself as just one member of a coalition of Catholics, evangelicals, black Protestants and others supporting Proposition 8, a measure to stop gay marriage in California.
Some opponents of the measure sought to dispel that in the campaign's final weeks, pointing to extensive Mormon organizing and the staggering amount of money donated by individual Mormons at the behest of church leaders in Salt Lake City.
Since the measure's passage last week, media outlets reported chants of "Mormon scum" and slurs against church founder Joseph Smith at a demonstration outside a Los Angeles-area temple, and a church meeting-house was vandalized. More Mormon-specific protests are in the works.
The backlash against Mormons has ignited a debate over whether the church deserves to be singled out for what opponents believe was a dishonest campaign or is an easy political target as a minority religion that has taken plenty of lumps.
"I think it is a purely tactical reaction from those who are supporting gay marriage because if it can be made to appear the opposition is essentially one religion that is, frankly, an often misunderstood religion, it's easier to make the case that the other side is reasonable," said Michael Otterson, spokesman for the Church of Jesus Christ of
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Latter-day Saints, or the Mormon church.
Proposition 8 opponents denounced vandalism and violence, and some have spoken out against anti-Mormon rhetoric. But they also say Mormon money funded irresponsible ads, like one suggesting young children would be required to learn about homosexuality in schools.
"I don't think the Mormon church stepped outside the boundaries available to any faith community that wants to get organized on values they hold dear," said Lindi Ramsden, a Unitarian minister who organized interfaith opposition to the measure. "The part that saddens me is that money donated by people of faith was used to finance advertising that is as close to blatant lies as you can get."
Even so, Ramsden sent an e-mail to allies this week warning against making scapegoats of any one group, including Mormons and blacks, who also strongly backed the measure.
The Mormon church's Proposition 8 efforts represent its strongest push into politics since it opposed the Equal Right Amendment in the 1970s.
The church believes traditional marriage is best for society. Heterosexual marriage is also central to Mormon theology; Mormons believe their marriages are keys to eternal life.
In June, the LDS First Presidency, its highest governing body, announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter read at every congregation. Members were asked to donate their "means and time" to the effort to undo a May court decision that legalized gay marriage in California and opened the door for 18,000 same-gender couples to wed in the past four months.
One factor in Mormons becoming an opposition target was Mormonsfor8.com, a Web site founded by Nadine Hansen, a 61-year-old semiretired lawyer from Cedar City, Utah.
Because the church itself did not donate money to the campaign, Hansen sought to identify Mormon donors of $1,000 or more, matching campaign records to tips from site visitors and church members and what she and others uncovered with search engines.
The site attributes $15 million in donations to Mormons, or nearly half the Yes on 8 war chest in a state where Mormons make up 2 percent of the population.
Originally, the site named Mormon givers, but Hansen said she changed it to include only first names and last-name initials over concerns Mormons would be hate-crime targets.
"For months, these sacred houses of worship were the precinct offices, members were called to be campaign workers and ward lists were turned into voter rosters," Hansen said. "Basically, if the church wants to know why Mormon sacred places are targeted, look in the mirror."
Hansen said she is a Mormon but does not attend church. Otterson, the church spokesman, said the church recognizes freedom to demonstrate, but hopes it is in "good taste and respectful."
Some gay marriage backers in California began taking a sharper tone against Mormons in October. The liberal group Courage Campaign organized an online petition asking LDS Church President Thomas Monson to stop bearing false witness, among other things.
On Election Night, the group aired a controversial ad that depicted Mormon missionaries ransacking a lesbian couple's house and destroying their marriage certificate.
"All it did was dramatize what the church wanted to do and in fact did do," said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the Courage Campaign. He said religious bigotry was not at work.
"There is no place in America for anything but an embrace — not just tolerance — of people's religious beliefs," Jacobs said. "Equally, I would say great caution should be exercised when people try to restrict people's rights."
Dale Carpenter, a University of Minnesota law professor who opposed Proposition 8, said singling out the Mormon church is wrong. He called it "selective indignation," and said some Mormons publicly opposed the measure and others backed it for deeply held beliefs, not bigotry.
"It's especially inappropriate to target the physical buildings — the places of worship themselves — because that invites the kind of religious intolerance we have suffered too much of in the history of this country," Carpenter said.
Roman Catholic Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento also defended Mormons, calling the backlash "serious religious bigotry."
Gay-marriage backers "look at this whole thing as a discrimination issue. And they're giving the same, in a sense, to Mormons and other religious people," Weigand said in an interview.
Protests also have been staged at a Catholic cathedral and an Orange County megachurch led by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren, who endorsed Proposition 8.
But if anything, gay-rights activists are intensifying their focus on the Mormon church. Building on protests at LDS temples in California and Salt Lake City in the past week, they went on to plan a demonstration Wednesday night at the church's temple in Manhattan.
Gay rights activists have proposed tourism boycotts in Utah and challenges to the church's tax exempt status. For every $5 the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center raises to fight the gay-marriage ban, the group promises to send a postcard to Monson, the church president.
"They weren't the only conservative sort of extremist anti-gay religious group that got involved in the campaign," said Lorri L. Jean, the center's chief executive officer. "But nobody did what they did."
Some Mormon scholars believe more is at work than anger against Mormons flexing financial and organizational muscle. Armand Mauss, a retired Washington State University sociologist, said the campaign laid bare a "latent anti-Mormon undercurrent."
Anti-Mormon rhetoric is politically safe because Mormons remain a relatively small minority and "have never been completely assimilated as 'normal Americans' to completely live down the image of 'weirdness' inherited from the 19th century," Mauss said in an e-mail.
The evangelical mantra that Mormons aren't Christian — as well as this year's raid in Texas of a polygamist sect, a group not always distinguished from mainstream Mormonism — feeds into that, he said.
Richard Davis, a political science professor at church-owned Brigham Young University, said intolerance of Mormons extends from the secular left to the religious right. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Mormonism was attacked by some evangelicals — Mormon allies on Proposition 8.
"That's where the LDS church is right now," Davis said, "despite years of efforts to improve the image of the church."
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Supporters of gay marriage, frustrated over a ballot-box defeat in California, have channeled much of their anger toward the towering white spires of Mormon temples.
For months, the Mormon church sought to portray itself as just one member of a coalition of Catholics, evangelicals, black Protestants and others supporting Proposition 8, a measure to stop gay marriage in California.
Some opponents of the measure sought to dispel that in the campaign's final weeks, pointing to extensive Mormon organizing and the staggering amount of money donated by individual Mormons at the behest of church leaders in Salt Lake City.
Since the measure's passage last week, media outlets reported chants of "Mormon scum" and slurs against church founder Joseph Smith at a demonstration outside a Los Angeles-area temple, and a church meeting-house was vandalized. More Mormon-specific protests are in the works.
The backlash against Mormons has ignited a debate over whether the church deserves to be singled out for what opponents believe was a dishonest campaign or is an easy political target as a minority religion that has taken plenty of lumps.
"I think it is a purely tactical reaction from those who are supporting gay marriage because if it can be made to appear the opposition is essentially one religion that is, frankly, an often misunderstood religion, it's easier to make the case that the other side is reasonable," said Michael Otterson, spokesman for the Church of Jesus Christ of
Advertisement

Latter-day Saints, or the Mormon church.
Proposition 8 opponents denounced vandalism and violence, and some have spoken out against anti-Mormon rhetoric. But they also say Mormon money funded irresponsible ads, like one suggesting young children would be required to learn about homosexuality in schools.
"I don't think the Mormon church stepped outside the boundaries available to any faith community that wants to get organized on values they hold dear," said Lindi Ramsden, a Unitarian minister who organized interfaith opposition to the measure. "The part that saddens me is that money donated by people of faith was used to finance advertising that is as close to blatant lies as you can get."
Even so, Ramsden sent an e-mail to allies this week warning against making scapegoats of any one group, including Mormons and blacks, who also strongly backed the measure.
The Mormon church's Proposition 8 efforts represent its strongest push into politics since it opposed the Equal Right Amendment in the 1970s.
The church believes traditional marriage is best for society. Heterosexual marriage is also central to Mormon theology; Mormons believe their marriages are keys to eternal life.
In June, the LDS First Presidency, its highest governing body, announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter read at every congregation. Members were asked to donate their "means and time" to the effort to undo a May court decision that legalized gay marriage in California and opened the door for 18,000 same-gender couples to wed in the past four months.
One factor in Mormons becoming an opposition target was Mormonsfor8.com, a Web site founded by Nadine Hansen, a 61-year-old semiretired lawyer from Cedar City, Utah.
Because the church itself did not donate money to the campaign, Hansen sought to identify Mormon donors of $1,000 or more, matching campaign records to tips from site visitors and church members and what she and others uncovered with search engines.
The site attributes $15 million in donations to Mormons, or nearly half the Yes on 8 war chest in a state where Mormons make up 2 percent of the population.
Originally, the site named Mormon givers, but Hansen said she changed it to include only first names and last-name initials over concerns Mormons would be hate-crime targets.
"For months, these sacred houses of worship were the precinct offices, members were called to be campaign workers and ward lists were turned into voter rosters," Hansen said. "Basically, if the church wants to know why Mormon sacred places are targeted, look in the mirror."
Hansen said she is a Mormon but does not attend church. Otterson, the church spokesman, said the church recognizes freedom to demonstrate, but hopes it is in "good taste and respectful."
Some gay marriage backers in California began taking a sharper tone against Mormons in October. The liberal group Courage Campaign organized an online petition asking LDS Church President Thomas Monson to stop bearing false witness, among other things.
On Election Night, the group aired a controversial ad that depicted Mormon missionaries ransacking a lesbian couple's house and destroying their marriage certificate.
"All it did was dramatize what the church wanted to do and in fact did do," said Rick Jacobs, chairman of the Courage Campaign. He said religious bigotry was not at work.
"There is no place in America for anything but an embrace — not just tolerance — of people's religious beliefs," Jacobs said. "Equally, I would say great caution should be exercised when people try to restrict people's rights."
Dale Carpenter, a University of Minnesota law professor who opposed Proposition 8, said singling out the Mormon church is wrong. He called it "selective indignation," and said some Mormons publicly opposed the measure and others backed it for deeply held beliefs, not bigotry.
"It's especially inappropriate to target the physical buildings — the places of I am writing this letter ( ya i know i don't usually do this). Tuesday i went to dads to see him and visit with himit had been to long time since i had gone. Dad and i talked for a long time and he confided in me allot about how he was feeling. Brothers and Sisters Our Father feels he is loosing his children, I say this not to be mean but to quote are father "Every one has there own lives but no one seem to be calling or talking/ and with no letters coming in from any one (blog or otherwise) I am finding it as hard as the first year when we lost mom." As dad and I talked further he gave me the example of the letter he wrote of him and Jewel getting closer and about the time they spent at the temple, and of the picture he put up of them. Only people who responded were tamie, tamara,annie who gave the longest response and jalynn who gave the shortest. At the same time annie put on her blogthat she used grandmas bread receipe for bread and got hug responses from at least 8 people. Dad felt thatwith the huge event that are happening in his life would at least bring more of a response from his children.I know that there are some that feel that dad should not be dating or remarrying, I tell you now that dad hasnot forgotten mom nor has he quite loving her, and he doesn't desirve to be alone or without companion ship.As children we offer are love and support but we have all moved away and have are own lives, dad need thisalso. If you feel that dad is not deserving of this, I am sorry but it will happen with or without you, Dad has feltthings from each and every one of use and has strong feeling who is upset about all of this and who isn't.Come on Brothers and Sisters only one year ago we were all disgusted with the ellsworth's for ignoring dad andnow we are becoming no better than them. And I am no better, Dad generally has to come to the store to get tosee me and I live just behind him. I cant even begin to tell you how ashamed i feel for my part in all of this.If you fall in to this category I truly feel sorry for us all, if not then I applaud your diligence and mind fullness ofour father. Dad need us at this time in his life, our love, are support, and are impute good or bad. Don't put on aphony front, always give your honesty and love. If I have offended any of you I am truely sorry but familys areforever, but not to fall apart after the loss of a loved one. I know I can't make up for the way I have been buttomarow is a new day and a new begining, not just for me but for us all. If you are a spouse reading this letterget your husband or wife to read it personaly and I pray we all do the right things, for are selfs and dad. All of you have been in my mind and hart and i will try to be better LOVE EDWINworship themselves — because that invites the kind of religious intolerance we have suffered too much of in the history of this country," Carpenter said.
Roman Catholic Bishop William Weigand of Sacramento also defended Mormons, calling the backlash "serious religious bigotry."
Gay-marriage backers "look at this whole thing as a discrimination issue. And they're giving the same, in a sense, to Mormons and other religious people," Weigand said in an interview.
Protests also have been staged at a Catholic cathedral and an Orange County megachurch led by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren, who endorsed Proposition 8.
But if anything, gay-rights activists are intensifying their focus on the Mormon church. Building on protests at LDS temples in California and Salt Lake City in the past week, they went on to plan a demonstration Wednesday night at the church's temple in Manhattan.
Gay rights activists have proposed tourism boycotts in Utah and challenges to the church's tax exempt status. For every $5 the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center raises to fight the gay-marriage ban, the group promises to send a postcard to Monson, the church president.
"They weren't the only conservative sort of extremist anti-gay religious group that got involved in the campaign," said Lorri L. Jean, the center's chief executive officer. "But nobody did what they did."
Some Mormon scholars believe more is at work than anger against Mormons flexing financial and organizational muscle. Armand Mauss, a retired Washington State University sociologist, said the campaign laid bare a "latent anti-Mormon undercurrent."
Anti-Mormon rhetoric is politically safe because Mormons remain a relatively small minority and "have never been completely assimilated as 'normal Americans' to completely live down the image of 'weirdness' inherited from the 19th century," Mauss said in an e-mail.
The evangelical mantra that Mormons aren't Christian — as well as this year's raid in Texas of a polygamist sect, a group not always distinguished from mainstream Mormonism — feeds into that, he said.
Richard Davis, a political science professor at church-owned Brigham Young University, said intolerance of Mormons extends from the secular left to the religious right. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Mormonism was attacked by some evangelicals — Mormon allies on Proposition 8.
"That's where the LDS church is right now," Davis said, "despite years of efforts to improve the image of the church."

1 comment:

Marianne said...

Yes, this was all going on while you were gone. Pretty sad that they preach love and tolerance but they are the ones getting violent with us.









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